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The Authentic Monarch's Of The Igbo State by ezeagu(g): 12:19am On Feb 23, 2010

Near of us know that during the British reign of Igboland many aspects of the Igbo culture had been bastardised, corrupted and even completely eradicated. One major aspect of the destruction of the social, political and fifty-fifty religious fabric of Igboland was the introduction of the Warrant chiefs, masking every bit 'Igwe' (which just means 'his highness' by the style) or 'Eze'. Before this there was authentic royalty and this is what this thread seeks to highlight.

Who and where are the accurate monarch's of Igboland, and how is their actuality proven? Hundreds of villages boast of 'eze' or 'igwe' nonetheless none of these heads can trace their lineage (which they probably don't have because the titles are bought) past Fredrick Lugard.

If you know of the living authentic kings (or queens if at that place were/are whatsoever) of Igboland, list them here and give a short biography (if yous can).

Re: The Authentic Monarch's Of The Igbo State past ChinenyeN(k): 1:00am On Feb 23, 2010

I would recommend focusing on northern, western and riverine parts of ala Igbo. I'grand not all to sure about the northeast, or the eastern parts. I dubiousness yous'd get anywhere focusing on southern groups.

Re: The Accurate Monarch'south Of The Igbo Country by Abagworo(thousand): 1:19am On Feb 23, 2010

abiriba had enachioken while aro had ezearo.

Re: The Authentic Monarch's Of The Igbo Country by mamagee3(f): 1:29am On February 23, 2010

I don't see their pictures or their names
Where are the pictures
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Re: The Authentic Monarch'due south Of The Igbo Country past AndreUweh(thousand): 9:06pm On Feb 23, 2010

EZE NRI --oldest in Nigeria. Since 900AD
EZE ARO--since 14th century
OBI ONITSHA since 17th century
OBI OF AGBOR since 15th century.
Eze Ekpeye since 19th century.

Re: The Accurate Monarch'south Of The Igbo Country by ezeagu(yard): 10:29pm On Feb 23, 2010

1. What nigh Owerri? (don't express joy) I heard a man who called himself the Eze Owerri on NTA saying that his lineage goes back to the 17th century or something like that. If anyone knows about that please reply.


2. Tin Opobo exist considered an Igbo dynasty since the progenitor was from Nkwerre? Pease no fights, Information technology's a question)

Plus do any of you accept photos, heres a photograph of the Eze Nri (click to overstate)
[img]http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:tviP_3JYW1oRBM:http://images.igbonet.com/EzeNriNriEnwelanaIIObidiegwuOnyeso.jpg[/img]

Obi of Onitsha (click to enlarge) I'm surprised at how 'Igbo' his dressing is considering Onicha's Igala/Bini origin.


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Andre Uweh:

EZE NRI --oldest in Nigeria. Since 900AD

I thought the first Eze Nri (Eze Nri Ifikuanim) ascended in the 1040's?

Re: The Accurate Monarch's Of The Igbo Land past ChinenyeN(grand): ten:47pm On Feb 23, 2010

Eze Owere. . . seriously? As for question 2. . have the Opobo rulers been from the same family lineage?

Re: The Authentic Monarch's Of The Igbo Country past ezeagu(thou): x:54pm On February 23, 2010
ChinenyeN:

Eze Owere. . . seriously?

Yep, really. grin I don't know the history of Owerri so I wasn't sure

ChinenyeN:

have the Opobo rulers been from the same family lineage?

I don't know, have they?

Re: The Authentic Monarch's Of The Igbo Country past ChinenyeN(m): 11:09pm On Feb 23, 2010
ezeagu:

Yes, really. grin I don't know the history of Owerri so I wasn't sure

Oh ok. Well, I wouldn't know for sure, just I find it rather questionable.

ezeagu:

I don't know, have they?

I was asking considering if the rulers of Opobo had all been from that one Nkwere man'due south lineage, so Opobo could be considered a dynasty.

Re: The Accurate Monarch's Of The Igbo Country by AndreUweh(m): 11:20pm On February 23, 2010

What you lot accept in Owerri, Orlu, Ogwashi Ukwu, Iselu Ukwu.Ubulu Ukwu, Abor, Ibeku, Asaba are all kindred heads that metamorphosed into Obis and Ezes and are less than 110 x years sometime.
At Ezeagu, You may exist right on 1040's and Nri, but some accounts say since 900AD. Only what matters is that Nri Kingdom is the oldest in Nigeria.

Re: The Authentic Monarch's Of The Igbo Land by ezeagu(m): 11:46pm On Feb 23, 2010
Andre Uweh:

What y'all accept in Owerri, Orlu, Ogwashi Ukwu, Iselu Ukwu.Ubulu Ukwu, Abor, Ibeku, Asaba are all kindred heads that metamorphosed into Obis and Ezes and are less than 110 ten years old.

"We note that at that place is zippo Royal about the Asagba of Asaba nor is Asaba a kingdom. Asaba is a sophisticated republican community with over twoscore units (OGBE), which are autonomous in all respects."
http://world wide web.asaba.com/palace/ezenei/

True.

Andre Uweh:

At Ezeagu, Yous may be right on 1040's and Nri, but some accounts say since 900AD. But what matters is that Nri Kingdom is the oldest in Nigeria.

True, too bad the British destroyed the influence it had on Anambala and across otherwise we wouldn't have a 'king' in every piffling village, as well as other advantages.

Re: The Authentic Monarch's Of The Igbo State by ezeagu(m): 11:52pm On Feb 23, 2010

I think information technology's interesting to note that the Obi of Onitsha and his entourage are dressed exactly the same as the Eze Nri, feathers and all. You lot volition not run into any of the 'new' Eze dressed like this.

Re: The Authentic Monarch'south Of The Igbo Land by AndreUweh(k): 12:08am On February 24, 2010

Some other monarchs west of the Niger dresses in Nri like regalia. Though some of them do non trace their roots from Nri but the truth is starting to manifest.

Re: The Authentic Monarch's Of The Igbo Country by ezeagu(m): 2:53am On February 25, 2010

I would expect the Obi of Onitsha to dress similar the Oba of Benin, well thats the misconception I estimate.

Re: The Accurate Monarch's Of The Igbo Country past AzukaO(one thousand): 10:23am On Feb 27, 2010

The Igwe of Nnewi has been in beingness for several centuries (I will give the geneology before long). In 1904 when the Whiteman came into Nnewi, the Igwe that was on the throne was Ezeugbonyamba, the grandfather of the present Igwe Kenneth Orizu III.

What marks the Igwe throne from any other throne in Igboland or most other places is that it is hereditary past the oldest son of the Igwe at the time of his decease as long as that son does not take whatsoever traditional issues confronting him - like murder, stealing, abomination confronting the land, etc.

If you lot pay a trillion dollars into the accounts of Ojukwu, late Dr Nwafor Orizu, late Ekenedilichukwu, Ibeto, Coscharis, Chu Okongwu or Gen Sam Momah and hand over the Igwe of Nnewi throne to any of them, they will curse you for antisocial them and run away. That throne is a no-become area for whatever other person no matter your political, fiscal or military power.

The four quarters of Nnewi ie Otolo, Uruagu, Umudim and Nnewichi each has its own Obi which is always hereditary and non-contestible. All the villages in these quarters and even the big family unit called 'umunna' accept their corresponding Obi. Each is non-contestible.

The traditional role in Nnewi can be compared to that of the United kingdom of great britain and northern ireland. The difference is that in years past the UK throne was usurped and fought over. The UK throne can also be inherited past a daughter. But the Nnewi throne has never be fought over. Nobody knows what will happen to anybody who dares, just nobody has dared to find out.

I will requite you the names of all the Igwe of Nnewi since inception and a profile of the current Igwe Orizu presently.

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Re: The Authentic Monarch's Of The Igbo Country by AndreUweh(thou): 12:05pm On Feb 27, 2010

All the Igwes, Ezes and Obis in Igboland came into being between 100-110 years ago. Most are British creations. In near kingdreds in Igboland, in that location were heads but not with dominance. This heads were made warrant chiefs and Ezes afterwards.
Nevertheless, Nri, Agbor and Onitsha had deviant cases. The subsequently two may exist as a result of Nri or Bini influence.
It is noteworthy to know that the current Obi of Onitsha --Igwe Achebe sees Bini ancestry of Onitsha as nonsense and ridiculous.

Re: The Authentic Monarch's Of The Igbo Country by ezeagu(m): 7:54pm On Feb 27, 2010

Notation: Igwe is not a relevant championship, it's synonymous with 'your highness' or 'your majesty. I don't know when or where 'Igwe' was made a title, just information technology's a expert mode of identifying British made monarchies.

Re: The Authentic Monarch's Of The Igbo Land by AzukaO(m): 12:49pm On Mar 01, 2010
Andre Uweh:

All the Igwes, Ezes and Obis in Igboland came into beingness between 100-110 years ago. Most are British creations. In most kingdreds in Igboland, there were heads but not with potency. This heads were made warrant chiefs and Ezes later.
Withal, Nri, Agbor and Onitsha had deviant cases. The later two may exist as a result of Nri or Bini influence.
It is noteworthy to know that the current Obi of Onitsha --Igwe Achebe sees Bini ancestry of Onitsha as nonsense and ridiculous.

ezeagu:

Notation: Igwe is not a relevant title, it's synonymous with 'your highness' or 'your majesty. I don't know when or where 'Igwe' was made a title, but it'southward a adept style of identifying British made monarchies.

I am careful not to make a sweeping statement on an consequence I am not 100% about. Information technology is clear that your sweeping statements were made based on what y'all accept heard. Chinua Achebe'south Things Autumn Apart and Pointer of God have also helped to instil this belief that amongst the Igbo, in that location were no monarchs before the advent of the Whiteman.

Perchance due to little or no publicity, nearly people know trivial about the Nnewi royalty. Because of that I am doing a book on information technology.

As I said, Nnewi has four semi-autonomous parts: Otolo, Uruagu, Umudim and Nnewichi. Each of these quarters has an Obi which has been hereditary since inception, but the Obi of Otolo (the virtually senior quarter) is the Igwe of Nnewi. Whoever is the Obi of Otolo is automatically the Igwe of Nnewi. It is not contestable. The Whiteman met it like that when he came.

When the Whiteman (Major Moorhouse) and his army marched into Nnewi in 1904, the immature Igwe, whose father had merely died, was spirited away for fear that the Whiteman would kill him. His uncle Nwosu Odumegwu, who was the richest man in Nnewi then, received the visitors. They thought he was the Igwe only he told them no that the Igwe was in mourning and should not see visitors while mourning the belatedly Igwe. Given that Ezeodumegwu was wealthy and influential, the Whiteman sought to brand him the Warrant Main of Nnewi, but he vehemently refused. The Whiteman was said to have expressed his surprise that an African would refuse to be fabricated the Warrant Chief of his people past the Whiteman. When Ezeodumegwu and other elders got a firm balls that the young king would non be harmed, they arranged for a public coming together between the Igwe and the Whiteman at the Nkwo Nnewi Square. On the appointed mean solar day, Igwe accompanied by the other three Obi of the three quarters came out to meet with the Whiteman in the presence of the Nnewi People. Igwe was a boyfriend of 23 years so.

That was why I said in my earlier post that, if yous requite an Nnewi man a trillion dollars to assume the Igwe throne, he would curse you lot and run away. If the Igwe or Obi throne of Nnewi was created past the Whiteman, it would exist open for contest past the rich and influential, and Nnewi has the greatest cluster of rich men in Eastern Nigeria. Even though Dr Nwafor Orizu was the Senate President in the early 1960s when Orizu Two died, he did not fifty-fifty dream of going near the throne as is washed in other communities because he knew that he was not the heir.

Re: The Accurate Monarch's Of The Igbo Land by AzukaO(m): 1:43pm On Mar 01, 2010

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Igwe Ezeugbonyamba Orizu I succeeded his father Igwe Iwuchukwu Ezeifekaibeya in 1904, the same year the Whiteman came into Nnewi.

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Re: The Accurate Monarch'due south Of The Igbo Country past AzukaO(m): 1:58pm On Mar 01, 2010

Nwosu Ezeodumegwu, the "regent" who refused vehemently to be made Nnewi Warrant Main by the Whiteman in 1904 because information technology is a taboo for whatever other body to get the Igwe of Nnewi if he is not the heir.

Ezeodumegwu was so rich that a proverb nonetheless exists in Nnewi today in his name: Onye akochighi mbubo, o na-aza Ezeodumegwu? (If a man does not accept enough yam seedlings to plant on a pocket-sized portion of land, does he bear the the name Ezeodumegwu?)

Ezeodumegwu was the 'eze' (chieftancy) title he took. 1 of his descendants Dike Anagbalizu was likewise popular. Oliver de Coque sang a song for him in the 1980s. Prof ABC Nwosu, a onetime minister in Obasanjo's first term, is from that family.

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Re: The Accurate Monarch's Of The Igbo Country past AzukaO(m): 2:45pm On Mar 01, 2010

Motion-picture show shows Igwe KNO Orizu III existence presented to Michael Okpara, Eastern Premier, in the First Commonwealth, equally the 17th Igwe of Nnewi.

Born in 1925, Igwe Kenneth Orizu is the Obi of Otolo Nnewi and the Igwe of Nnewi. He attended the Hope Waddel Found Calabar and completed his educational activity at New Bethel College, Onitsha in 1942. He worked nether MCK Ajuluchukwu at the Eastern Nigeria Data Service, Enugu and afterwards moved to Asaba equally the Commercial Managing director for Mid-Western Region.

Upon the death of his father in 1963, he ascended the throne of his ancestors on May 25, 1963 as the 17th Igwe of Nnewi. This yr (2010) makes it his 47th on the throne.

Any day he passes on, his first son at the day of his passing on takes over as the 18th Igwe of Nnewi - no contest. That is the way information technology is with the Nnewi Monarchy.

Note that it is non only Nnewi that had kings before the advertizing of the whiteman. Many towns effectually Nnewi did. For instance, the mother of the current Igwe's grandfather was married from the royal family of Ihiala. When the news of the Whiteman's entrance into Nnewi was received, information technology was to the royal family of Ihiala that the  young Igwe was taken to to avoid any harm to him.

The problem why at that place is this belief that there were no monarchs in most all Igbo communities is considering nigh of these communities do not have whatever author in the mould of Achebe to publicize their people'south history. Simply information technology must be noted that unlike the Binis, Yorubas, Hausas etc, the Igwes and Obis that existed in these Igbo communities like that in Nnewi were never all-powerful. In line with the Igbo spirit, they were respected merely never treated like gods.

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Re: The Authentic Monarch'due south Of The Igbo Country by ezeagu(m): v:17pm On Mar 01, 2010

Hmm, maybe Nnewi is an exception but almost 'Igwe' are British constructed. Do you college quality of those pictures?

Re: The Accurate Monarch'due south Of The Igbo Land by AzukaO(m): 2:59pm On Mar 02, 2010

If you lot send your email address, I could ship the pictures to y'all.

Re: The Authentic Monarch's Of The Igbo Country by ifyalways(f): 7:13pm On Mar 07, 2010

And then Azuka what determines who succeds a dead igwe in Nnewi?does it rotate btw families in Otolo or its passed down from a particular lineage?

Re: The Authentic Monarch's Of The Igbo Country by AzukaO(m): nine:13am On Mar x, 2010
ifyalways:

And then Azuka what determines who succeds a dead igwe in Nnewi?does information technology rotate btw families in Otolo or its passed downwards from a item lineage?

Ify, I said it in one of my posts in a higher place: All traditional institutions in Nnewi are hereditary (by the get-go son). Whatever solar day the current Igwe dies, WHOEVER is his offset son at the time of his expiry automatically becomes the side by side Igwe. If the current Igwe has no boy at the time of his death, his immediate younger brother becomes the Igwe. If none of his brothers is alive, the eldest of his nephews becomes the Igwe. That is the mode it is for all the Obi of all the umunna, villages and 4 quarters of Nnewi.

Re: The Authentic Monarch's Of The Igbo Country by ezeagu(m): 8:34pm On Mar ten, 2010
Azuka.O:

Ify, I said it in one of my posts in a higher place: All traditional institutions in Nnewi are hereditary (by the commencement son). Any solar day the current Igwe dies, WHOEVER is his offset son at the time of his death automatically becomes the next Igwe. If the current Igwe has no boy at the time of his death, his immediate younger brother becomes the Igwe. If none of his brothers is live, the eldest of his nephews becomes the Igwe. That is the mode it is for all the Obi of all the umunna, villages and 4 quarters of Nnewi.

Were there no queens?

Re: The Accurate Monarch's Of The Igbo Land by AzukaO(k): 9:22am On Mar xi, 2010
ezeagu:

Were there no queens?

Was that a joke? Queens in Igboland? If you mean Queen as in Regina (reigning queens), there have never been any in Igboland. (Except in Nollywood fantasies). If y'all mean queen as Igwe'southward wife, yeah.

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Re: The Authentic Monarch's Of The Igbo Land past Abagworo(grand): nine:47pm On Mar 11, 2010

cheers azuka o.merely what is meant by igbos have no male monarch is that in that location were no real empires in igboland.igbos have kings of very small enclave like onitsha,aboh,nri etc simply no key leader.the alaafin of oyo ruled the entire yorubaland while the oba ruled the entire edoland.these kings of pocket-sized enclaves could neither wage wars nor conquer their surrounding villages.they were more of just spiritual effigy heads and not authoritative emperors.

Re: The Accurate Monarch'due south Of The Igbo Country by henry101(thousand): 8:43am On Mar 17, 2010
Abagworo:

thank you azuka o.but what is meant by igbos have no king is that there were no real empires in igboland.igbos accept kings of very small enclave like onitsha,aboh,nri etc only no central leader.the alaafin of oyo ruled the entire yorubaland while the oba ruled the entire edoland.these kings of modest enclaves could neither wage wars nor conquer their surrounding villages. they were more than of but spiritual effigy heads and not authoritative emperors.

Yeah I think they were spiritual heads in evry community igboland than kings.
Even if at that place were kings, at that place was always a village priest who had the powers 2comminicate with their ancestors for spiritual guidance.
Atleast I tin can attest to this from ma moms village.

Re: The Authentic Monarch's Of The Igbo Country past AzukaO(m): iii:02pm On Mar 17, 2010

Yes in line with the Igbo manner of life, the Igwe of Nnewi has never been all-powerful like the Emir of Kano or Ooni of Ife. But he has never been a spiritual leader. Nosotros have Priests for Edo, Ogwugwu, Akpu, Udo etc.

The Igwe of Nnewi reigns among his people with their consent and support. Nnewi people take a saying: "Y'all don't rule Nnewi people; you administer/manage them."

Re: The Authentic Monarch'south Of The Igbo Country by AzukaO(m): 3:13pm On Mar 17, 2010

Yes in line with the Igbo mode of life, the Igwe of Nnewi has never been anointed like the Emir of Kano or Ooni of Ife. Merely he has never been a spiritual leader. We accept Priests for Edo, Ogwugwu, Akpu, Udo etc.

The Igwe of Nnewi reigns among his people with their consent and support. Nnewi people have a maxim: "You don't rule Nnewi people; you administer/manage them."

Re: The Authentic Monarch'southward Of The Igbo State by ezeagu(g): 7:32pm On Feb 05, 2011

There are Igbo queens known equally Ọmụ who are queens in their own correct and non through marriage. Ọmụ are usually found among the Aniocha people in places like Ogwahi-Ukwu and Igbuzor.

Obi Martha Dunkwu, Omu of Okpam

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